The Thundercats Mary Sue


There are a lot of great websites available devoted to the topic of the infamous "Mary Sue", but none of them are specific to Thundercats.  For more detail on what a "Mary Sue" is, go to one of the links at the bottom of this page and check them out.  They've covered the topic with a lot of thought and depth.  On this page, I’m just going to give a brief summary on what a Mary Sue is and how she often appears in the realm of Thundercats fanfiction.

 

What is a Mary Sue?

 

Specifically, a “Mary Sue” is an original character of the fanfic author that is little more than a projection of the author him/herself into the universe being written about.  Self-insertion (the author writing his or her real-life persona into the story) is the most extreme example of this, but there are plenty of original characters that fit the definition as well, and they're the more prevalent example in Thundercats fanfiction.  Before we get into the meat of this discussion, I’m going to make a couple of clear statements up front:  Not all original characters are Mary Sues, and not all characters that are Mary Sues are necessarily bad or annoying.  There are authors that can take a Mary Sue character and write it into the universe beautifully, and make the character an interesting and fun addition to it.  Unfortunately, for every fun and entertaining Mary Sue, there are also some that are the opposite.

 

How does the infamous Mary Sue tend to manifest in Thundercats fanfiction?

In the Thundercats Universe, the Mary Sue (or from this point on, the irksome kind of Mary Sue) is nearly perfect.  She is young, extraordinarily beautiful, capturing all the attention of the male Thundercats (or Mutants or Lunatacs if part of one of those groups) if she’s old enough, and becomes either best friends or bitter rivals (with the show character being the jealous one, of course) with the females.  She’s as brilliant as Tygra, handy with weapons as Panthro, as witty as the Thunderkittens, has psychic skills rivaling or surpassing those of Cheetara, and the compassion of those devoid-of-evil snarfs.  She usually has her own weapon that is just as powerful as the Sword of Omens, given to her by Jaga himself.  Often she is the daughter of Jaga or the sibling of Lion-O.  Lion-O or Tygra is often her object of affection, and he of course always falls head over heels in love with her.  Mary Sue is either brave and strong, willing to sacrifice herself for all her fellow Thundercats, making them go deep into mourning for her loss, or she is a lost or young soul that the Thundercats help to become brave and strong after facing her doubts about herself.

 

Not that the Thundercats Mary Sue is always female.  She has a twin called Gary Stu.  Like his sister, Gary Stu is usually a long lost relative of one of the regulars and he’s often a “cool rebel” to boot.  He’s a loner and a maverick, but whatever unconventional tricks he pulls always lead him and the team to victory, wherein he gains the grudging respect of the regulars.  Gary Stu has the same talents his sister has: good looks, brilliance, fighting skills like a kung-fu master, and a weapon that makes him invincible.  He’s dashing and immediately wins the affections of the ladies, often to the point of making other show characters jealous of him.  Sometimes he has emotional issues that make him moody, but that’s just because the others “don’t understand” him and his traumatic past.  Usually Cheetara or Pumyra help him come to terms with his inner conflicts through their great love for him.  Once this happens the others are sorry they ever doubted him and his heart of gold, and by the end, he’s the hero.

 

Why is Mary Sue so annoying?

Odds are that if you’ve written a Mary Sue—and be honest, most of us have written at least a borderline Mary Sue at one point or another—you might be wondering why people would think a character like the ones described above would be so irritating to fans.  There are a few reasons.  Number one, people who read Thundercats fanfiction are doing so because they want to read about the characters they know and love.  When they see a story focused on an original creation, not only are they not familiar with the character (especially if the author doesn’t take a lot of time to develop them, and just tosses them in), but it’s likely that they’ll resent it when this stranger takes over the universe and reduces the regulars to co-star or supporting character status.  It doesn’t feel like the show they know and love anymore.  Number two is a more selfish reason.  When a character is obviously an insert of the author, interacting with the show characters, it’s only fun for the author and maybe the author’s friends.  Most readers won’t want to see Lion-O hooked up with Mary Sue when he’s their favorite Thundercat.  Conversely, Cheetara fans won’t want to see their favorite Thundercat turned into a raving jealous psycho when some newcomer joins the team and all the males immediately drool over her, pushing Cheetara over the edge.  Such things are not only out of character for the regulars, but insulting to fans.

 

But my character isn’t annoying, right?

That depends.  As I said above, many original characters are not Mary Sues at all, and even some that are clearly Mary Sues are still fun characters.  The key is in how the author handles their original creation.  By avoiding the clichés associated with Mary Sues, a good author can make the Mary Sue a fascinating character that enriches the universe.  

 

Can show characters ever be Mary Sues?

Absolutely.  The show version of Lion-O is a Mary Sue.  He always wins, always saves the day, spouting smarmy speeches as he does, and he has a weapon that can do 10,000 things.  Fortunately the writers gave him some quirks to keep him fairly interesting.  Snarf is also a Mary Sue in my opinion.  He’s a creature that’s supposed to be cute and cuddly and devoid of evil—practically perfect—and look at the reaction at least half the fans have to him:  They can’t stand him!

 

Fanfic writers can also write show characters as Mary Sues.  This form of Mary Sueing is one that is harder to spot than the original character versions, but it’s no less grating when done badly, because like the examples above, instead of putting all of him/herself into an original creation, the author lives vicariously through one of the show regulars (usually a favorite) to the point of putting them wildly out of character.  Examples of this are giving the character super powers they didn’t have on the show, changing the character to be the leader if not already one, or having him/her be the one to ultimately vanquish the enemy.  Now, this is not saying in any way that all plotlines like that are necessarily Mary Sues, for that would unfairly classify many great Thundercats fanfics out there, but it does happen, and certain characters such as the Thunderkittens are more prone to plots like this than others.  Just keep in mind when writing a fanfic that if your plotline fits in with any of the clichés seen in the above examples or in the litmus test, take care as you write that you’re keeping true to the show character or doing a very believable job of making the reader feel that the changes don’t seem unnatural or forced.  If you’re not sure if the way you write a character qualifies as Mary Sueing or not, put your fanfic version of the character through the litmus test and see how he/she scores.

 

So how do I find out if my character is a Mary Sue?

 

Click the link, get a pen and paper ready, and run your character through The Mary Sue Litmus Test for Thundercats Fanfiction.  

 

Or if you’d like an example of three characters run through the litmus test, go here for the Mary Sue Test: Answers and Explanations.

 

Do you have a Mary Sue?
Then check out the So You Have A Thundercats Mary Sue page to discover the Dos and Don’ts of Mary Sueing.

 

Where do I learn more about Thundercats Mary Sues?

 

You can visit the Realm of Al's Mary Sue Page, which holds the litmus test linked to above.  Aside from the Thundercats Mary Sue Litmus test, there is also some general Thundercat Mary Sue information and the results of Al's own characters put through the test.

 

Purrsia also has a nice page on the subject at Fun and Games With Mary Sue.  This has a Thundercats fanfiction Mary Sue drinking game as well as Purrsia's Mary Sue results.

 

Where do I learn more about Mary Sues in general?

 

Dr. Merlin's Guide to Fan Fiction: V. Who Is Mary Sue and Why Does She Have to Die?

This is the first link to Mary Sue information I’ve found and I highly recommend it.  The original litmus test came from this person, and many people have made ones to fit their fandom based on it.

 

Self-Insertion and Mary-Sue-Ism

An in-depth explanation of Mary Sue and how to properly use her in fanfic.

 

The Mary Sue Society

A site that celebrates all things Mary Sue.


 

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